View Full Version : VIDS From ODS Last night
Pure Evo
06-02-2005, 12:33
Well, it was pretty fun, the weather was nice, but a little warm. The times weren't that great, but it seemed like everyone there was running lower than usual. There only maybe 20-30 street cars racing. Unfortunately, Warrtalon developed a boost leak and could only run a couple of times, but still managed to embarass a Mustang. I had fun beating up on v8's (and a couple of econo-rockets LOL). Thanks to Jotun for taking time between runs to videotape. I wish my first couple of runs were on tape, they were bad times, but I was the first one on the cold track and my wheels spun so bad I was drifting sideways, which I think probably looked pretty cool :cool: Anyway, here are links to the vids of Me, Warrtalon, Jotun and MadMsheen:
Some kids on mini-bikes:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/MiniBikes.WMV (1981Kb)
Me vs. a semi-modded civic:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/PureEvoGoodLaunch.WMV (1292Kb)
Me vs. a pretty modded Saturn:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/PureEvoBadLaunch.WMV (1206Kb)
Warrtalon outshooting a Mustang, then losing boost:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/WarrtalonNoBoost2.wmv (1413Kb)
MadMsheen running without the timer
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/MadMsheenNoTime2.wmv (1086Kb)
Jotun rocking off the line:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/JotunFirstRun2.wmv (1336Kb)
Me vs. Classic Muscle:
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/PureEvoNova2.wmv (1181Kb)
Me vs. an "Low 12 second" 5.0 who told me his clutch gave out...
http://www.streetracing-syndicate.com/upload/files/SterlingEvo/PureEvoMustangGiveUp.WMV (1970Kb)
TheSpeedFactor
06-02-2005, 12:49
good stuff man.
All We'll Drive
06-02-2005, 13:33
Great vids, I like the one where you take out the classic muscle.
Pure Evo
06-02-2005, 13:53
Great vids, I like the one where you take out the classic muscle.
That was actually, and sadly, probably my best time of the day 8.20 @ 85.8... Hell, I ran an 8.1 @ 85 (as part of 1/4) with just exhaust and boost controller. I think the 272s set at 0,0 are affecting my low end, so I'm about the same low end as before, but more pull up top, which doesn't help at all on the 1/8th... Maybe I'll adjust my gears and see what happens...
MadMsheen
06-02-2005, 14:43
Thanks for posting the vids. It was my first time to a drag track, but I had alot of fun. I will probably go again real soon; maybe, next week soon. I need to practice my launches, and ODS is a safe, close place to do it.
MadMsheen
06-02-2005, 14:47
Oh, in case anyone was wondering, my times for the vid above are as follows:
R/T 1.467
60' 2.173
330 5.671
1/8 8.612
MPH 83.37
Not my best time of the day, but I had consistently low 60' times all day. Gotta get those launches down.
Warrtalon
06-02-2005, 15:28
Not my best time of the day, but I had consistently low 60' times all day. Gotta get those launches down.
Consistently high, rather. ;)
Once you get that figured out, you'll be in the low 12s in the 1/4 and maybe 8.0 at ODS.
All We'll Drive
06-02-2005, 15:53
Awesome, I'd like to come along next time
Pure Evo
06-02-2005, 16:14
Please do :D
Cool vids! Glad you guys were able to make it out. :)
It was sooo much fun i think we each had an opportunity to get in about 5 or 6 tuns before the crowd showed up so it gave us some good practice. I kept having problems with my 1-2 shift my gears would grind massively.... And i would have to press my clutch slow down and then shift. It was very very frustrateing so I parked my car and Video taped for awhil to let my Trans cool off and I wen back and ran my best pass of the day.
R/T: .598
60': 2.478
330: 6.977
1/8: 10.716
MPH: 65.42
ohh and keep in mind this is a N/A lancer not Evo :D
Warrtalon
06-02-2005, 21:41
R/T: .598
60': 2.478
330: 6.977
1/8: 10.716
MPH: 65.42
ohh and keep in mind this is a N/A lancer not Evo :D
Damn, I suck...I was only 5mph faster! :eek:
I was 1.5sec faster, though, so I think you need to get that 60' down (I know, fwd, low hp, and bad 1-2), but you probably have another half second or more to gain if the stars align. :D
MadMsheen
06-02-2005, 23:43
Were you guys releasing the clutch as the last yellow hit? I wouldn't be so concerned about the R/T, but when the STi lined up against me he had an R/T of about .405 and I had one of about .97. He also had a red light after he left the line. It looked like he left before he got the green light. How does that work?
I also have seriously bad wheel hop with a 5k launch so i also need to fix that...
Any Idea's? I have heard that solid motor mounts would work but i am not sure what else would help.....
And dont be modest your ass had no boost on and wouldnt go above 5500 rpm.... Your MR will dominate once you get that and your R/T down....
caymandiver75
06-03-2005, 09:10
Looks like alot of fun. Count me in for next time with my Hybrid. hehe
Warrtalon
06-03-2005, 09:29
Were you guys releasing the clutch as the last yellow hit? I wouldn't be so concerned about the R/T, but when the STi lined up against me he had an R/T of about .405 and I had one of about .97. He also had a red light after he left the line. It looked like he left before he got the green light. How does that work?
Yes, I pretty much launch on the 3rd yellow. The STi red-lighted, because a perfect R/T is a .500. He was almost a full tenth early, while you were almost a full half-second late. When learning, though, it's better to ignore the tree and only worry about nailing down your launch. If you worry about the tree, then you're just adding another variable to an already difficult equation.
wangan_x
06-03-2005, 11:48
Were you guys releasing the clutch as the last yellow hit? I wouldn't be so concerned about the R/T, but when the STi lined up against me he had an R/T of about .405 and I had one of about .97. He also had a red light after he left the line. It looked like he left before he got the green light. How does that work?
a red light means nothing unless you are racing in competition. i assume they use a nonstandard light, meaning .500 =.500 rt, whereas most professional strips use a .000=.500 rt. your timer doesn't start until you leave the line. if you can get your 60' down you should be below 8.5's. when i was stock i was running 8.1's at 1/8th with a 60' of 1.9. now i am running mid 12's and low 1.6 60's.
I also have seriously bad wheel hop with a 5k launch so i also need to fix that...
Any Idea's? I have heard that solid motor mounts would work but i am not sure what else would help.....
And dont be modest your ass had no boost on and wouldnt go above 5500 rpm.... Your MR will dominate once you get that and your R/T down....
Try heating up your tires, or don't launch at 5k(suprised your not spinning) Motor mounts will help, nut not completely eliminate your wheel hop
Warrtalon
06-03-2005, 12:07
a red light means nothing unless you are racing in competition. i assume they use a nonstandard light, meaning .500 =.500 rt, whereas most professional strips use a .000=.500 rt. your timer doesn't start until you leave the line. if you can get your 60' down you should be below 8.5's. when i was stock i was running 8.1's at 1/8th with a 60' of 1.9. now i am running mid 12's and low 1.6 60's.
Holy crap, you hit 8.1s in the 1/8th while stock with only a 1.9 60'??? An 8.1s 1/8th is good for a 12.7 or 12.8, so with a 1.7 60', you could have been running 12.5s stock! Man, and I thought _I_ was fast with only an S-AFC.
In stock form, I hit the 1/8th with an 8.4@80mph en route to a 13.1@104 with a nasty 1.92 60' like yours, and this was on an 05. Your car must have been hellaciously fast when it was stock to beat mine by 3/10ths in the 1/8th despite the same 60'.
MadMsheen
06-03-2005, 12:22
a red light means nothing unless you are racing in competition. i assume they use a nonstandard light, meaning .500 =.500 rt, whereas most professional strips use a .000=.500 rt. your timer doesn't start until you leave the line. if you can get your 60' down you should be below 8.5's. when i was stock i was running 8.1's at 1/8th with a 60' of 1.9. now i am running mid 12's and low 1.6 60's.
We actually were competing. He made it clear that we were racing when we were in staging. He jumped the gun, and I found myself doing catchup. His comment when we got back to staging was, "You had a better time than me, but I crossed the finish line first." I was like, "huh?? you red lighted" Regardless he was pretty fast, and I got a kick out of it. I just didn't find it sporting that he left the line early, and still claimed it as a victory. I could have just gone on the first yellow, and crossed the line first. I believe the rt does start at .500 once the green light hits on the tree. If it doesn't start until after we leave the line, then what is the R/T measuring? Also, I didn't notice other people getting the red light, except for guys launching early.
I'll know better for next time, and I am hoping for approx 8.0 sec times once I get my 60' times down.
Him Me
.407 R/T .980
1.968 60' 1.944
5.641 330 5.405
8.666 1/8 8.291
81.34 MPH 84.61
Warrtalon
06-03-2005, 12:27
We actually were competing. He made it clear that we were racing when we were in staging. He jumped the gun, and I found myself doing catchup. His comment when we got back to staging was, "You had a better time than me, but I crossed the finish line first." I was like, "huh?? you red lighted" Regardless he was pretty fast, and I got a kick out of it. I just didn't find it sporting that he left the line early, and still claimed it as a victory. I could have just gone on the first yellow, and crossed the line first. I believe the rt does start at .500 once the green light hits on the tree. If it doesn't start until after we leave the line, then what is the R/T measuring? Also, I didn't notice other people getting the red light, except for guys launching early.
I'll know better for next time, and I am hoping for approx 8.0 sec times once I get my 60' times down.
Him Me
.407 R/T .980
1.968 60' 1.944
5.641 330 5.405
8.666 1/8 8.291
81.34 MPH 84.61
Well, he's a dumbass then. Since he redlighted, he AUTOMATICALLY lost. Anyone can leave early just to win, so he obviously doesn't understand drag racing. The thing is, though, you still left a half-second late, so if his R/T was in the .5xx, he would have actually won. The heads-up timer does begin as soon as the green light hits, but your personal ET timer is not tripped until you cross the line. Your timeslip there should say that you are the winner, also. If you get a challenge like that next time, try to nail the light better, but if you aren't in a challenge, you can ignore the lights.
Pure Evo
06-03-2005, 12:30
I should have raced that son of a bitch. I was trying to line up with him but it never worked out.
MadMsheen
06-03-2005, 12:54
The slip states that he crossed first by .1988. The funny thing is I didn't really worry about the rt the whole day except that one run, and that was my best launch and 60' time of the day. I don't think I had time to think about the launch, and just did it.
Pure Evo
06-03-2005, 13:03
I used a bit of advice from Jotun to remind me of how to launch well.
Second staging light: Lift off brake
first yellow: rev engine
last yellow: let clutch slip out.
The time between the last yellow and the green is basically the amount of time it takes for the mechanics of the car to get it moving, so if you think to leave at the last yellow, you'll actually leave right at the green...
wangan_x
06-03-2005, 15:32
We actually were competing. He made it clear that we were racing when we were in staging. He jumped the gun, and I found myself doing catchup. His comment when we got back to staging was, "You had a better time than me, but I crossed the finish line first." I was like, "huh?? you red lighted" Regardless he was pretty fast, and I got a kick out of it. I just didn't find it sporting that he left the line early, and still claimed it as a victory. I could have just gone on the first yellow, and crossed the line first. I believe the rt does start at .500 once the green light hits on the tree. If it doesn't start until after we leave the line, then what is the R/T measuring? Also, I didn't notice other people getting the red light, except for guys launching early.
I'll know better for next time, and I am hoping for approx 8.0 sec times once I get my 60' times down.
Him Me
.407 R/T .980
1.968 60' 1.944
5.641 330 5.405
8.666 1/8 8.291
81.34 MPH 84.61
an rt measures reaction, I don't know how much you have drag raced, but basically their are two "types" of drag races. grudge what yous guys did, and bracket where no matter how slow your car is you can still win, basically in bracket racing the object is to run the same time as your dial in time, generally you get three shakedown runs to figure your dial in. so, if you are running 12's and there is a prodragster next you running 7's you have quite a good chance to beat them, if you can run closer to the same time as dial in then they can you win, basically they want both cars to cross at the exact same time, so, you go then 5 secs later the pro dragster goes
Holy crap, you hit 8.1s in the 1/8th while stock with only a 1.9 60'??? An 8.1s 1/8th is good for a 12.7 or 12.8, so with a 1.7 60', you could have been running 12.5s stock! Man, and I thought _I_ was fast with only an S-AFC.
In stock form, I hit the 1/8th with an 8.4@80mph en route to a 13.1@104 with a nasty 1.92 60' like yours, and this was on an 05. Your car must have been hellaciously fast when it was stock to beat mine by 3/10ths in the 1/8th despite the same 60'.
I actually ran a 12.9 stock, after which my clutch went to automotive heaven
I used a bit of advice from Jotun to remind me of how to launch well.
Second staging light: Lift off brake
first yellow: rev engine
last yellow: let clutch slip out.
The time between the last yellow and the green is basically the amount of time it takes for the mechanics of the car to get it moving, so if you think to leave at the last yellow, you'll actually leave right at the green...
i slip the clutch out and keep revving between 2 and 4k while holding the ebrake up and launch at 5k
Warrtalon
06-03-2005, 15:42
I actually ran a 12.9 stock, after which my clutch went to automotive heaven
Wow, that's amazing. I haven't read of anyone else doing that, ESPECIALLY with a bad 60'. Any idea why your car was strong enough to do 12.7 in stock form, but most people have trouble getting 12.7 with all the bolt-ons (minus cams)? It would be easier to believe if you did it with a crazy 1.6x 60', but to do so with a 1.9 is beyond amazing.
wangan_x
06-03-2005, 15:57
Wow, that's amazing. I haven't read of anyone else doing that, ESPECIALLY with a bad 60'. Any idea why your car was strong enough to do 12.7 in stock form, but most people have trouble getting 12.7 with all the bolt-ons (minus cams)? It would be easier to believe if you did it with a crazy 1.6x 60', but to do so with a 1.9 is beyond amazing.
i never said when i did the quarter i ran 1.9 60', i ran a 1.7 60'. when i ran the eighth i was having traction probs cause the track was cold. AWD's are interesting when they slip because they hop up and down.
keep in mind i was in FL about 30 ft above sea level on a nice 60 degree day as well.
i still don't have cams, next is a pulley,BIG FMIC, and 272's, no idea what i will do with that, but i am hoping for mid to high 11's
Jotun you should do about a max 3500 rpm launch. if you do any higher you just hop the whole way and don't grip... that probably alone cost you 1/2 sec.
Just fyi... these are specs from someone who ran a 16.2 on the 1/4 mile with a lancer with
Intake/3" Exhaust/Ecu Tune/Stage 2 Clutch.
Date: March 17, 2005
1/4 Mile: 16.209 @ 86.19mph
1/8 Mile: 10.477 @ mph
60': 2.446
Race Track: ...
Temperature: 45
Octane: 95
I wouldn't feel too bad Jotun.. you didn't do too bad considering your just I/E...
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